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Originally Posted by dead_battery
what you have stated are not opinions but historical facts, which i would not argue with. however your pretension that religion is somehow separate from these endeavours and doesn't actively encourage them is totally disingenuous. you can play the game of 'but that's not REAL religion' all you want but it's simply dishonest. you can't disentangle the economic and the political from the religious. in fact it strikes me that doing so reduces religion to nothing more than a total impotent individualistic lifestyle accessory. which you probably don't have a problem with.
your supposed innocent space wherein true, inherently peaceful and benevolent religion is practiced is a total sham. you know this but it doesn't fit into your frankly self aggrandizing preaching of an archaic and increasingly obsolete primitive fantasy.
also, i don't disagree with anything hip priest said.
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A sham, and I know it? Real deep there. Again, calling people liars and disingenuous is counter-productive. There is nowhere in the Bible or the Quran, neither in the legitimately recognized literary bodies of Christian or Islamic "tradition" which supports blowing up abortion clinics or occupying military forces, in fact, generally quite the opposite. Have extremists hijacked the narrative in order to manipulate generally ignorant, poor, or idealistic people to join in jihads, crusades, and missions? Yes. Is that the core of these? No. Again, that is my analysis, and you can disagree with it all you'd like without resulting in personally scathing attacks like calling me a liar or the perpetrator of some kind of scam.
Also, real classy with that self-aggrandizing preaching and archaic fantasy part, did you steal that from a real clever blog? When have I ever been preachy? EVEN ROB CAN VOUCH, THE ONLY THING I PREACH IS MUTUAL RESPECT, TOLERANCE, AND LOVE. Your scathing attitude and Rob's crass comments are not part of that dialogue. So I jumped in. I've never promoted one organization, institution, or ideology over another, rather that we all learn to be nice to each other. If you can't dig it, you will inevitably learn how, we all share this planet together.