[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Severian

Ok, UHH... Your analogy sucks because Rn'R is basically a synonym for "white people ripping off black people." This leads me to believe that you either suck at analogies or history, but I don't want to get into a nut busting contest with you. I try to fight fair, and you've only been a slight prock to me a couple of times, so... fuck it, we're even.

But listen- it's not that I hate all white rappers. I dropped a few names to help make this clear. What I have a problem with is rappers who essentially make a career out of doing a blackface act with their voices.

White rappers who don't even consider rapping naturally, and instead try their damnedest to sound black! This is not a figment of my imagination... it's a national goddamn past time that goes way beyond rap music, affecting high school and middle school social dynamics all over the Midwest!

Is it moronic that I find it moronic that hip-hop culture, ghetto culture, crime/prison culture, and fucking black culture are all being rolled into a giant California roll of identity by the soft, frail minds of ignorant assholes throughout the U.S.? Rap in your own goddamn voice!

Finally, there was even an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia that this very issue as it's hilarious sub-premise:
What's worse: blackface or black-voice?

 

So reel it in, man. I have a right to think this shit is absurd. If you think that makes me intolerant or culturally ignorant or blah blah, must I remind you that we're having this argument in the hip-hop thread I've been visiting every day for the past three years?

Do I think white people are bad? Yeah, plenty of them. Are they bad at rapping? Not as a rule.. not at all. Does it piss me off when they wear a "rap voice" like a curly wig? Yeah, kinda! Am I a moron? Probably... but not because of this.

"Moron post of the year"... Jesus... Goddamn drama queen.

You've totally contradicted yourself there. You're saying in this post that you hate the fact that white people are trying to sound black, but then in your previous quote you go on saying about how with Action you don't feel "Wow, this guy really is white inn't he?". But...but he's white...

To be honest, I'm of the opinion that the only decent, successful (which is rare) white rappers out there are the ones using their own voice. Anyone else (as I've already said Your Old Droog) won't matter in the long run. And rightly so.

As for white kids wanting to sound black, what can you expect.? A music industry as huge and influential as rap has become is gonna push kids into wanting to speak the lingo and slang of their favourite rappers (who are generally black). The exoticism and 'other-worldly', and to be honest almost romanticised world of rap makes kids think the living in the slums where some of the greats have come out is cool. Is it? Fuck no. The problem is that you have an industry pushing the worst kind of gangster rap from 50 Cent to DMX (you may like them, but fuck 'em) and make drug dealing, gun crime etc. seem almost cool. When you look properly at what Wu Tang, GZA, and certainly more recently, Kendrick are saying this is only their world because they've been forced into it.
Kids are susceptible and easy to influence. It takes someone interesting to rap in their own voice white or black. But it's also in some ways harder for them to break out.

Your analogy sucks because Rn'R is basically a synonym for "white people ripping off black people."

With this I'm reminded of the quote by Keith Richards when they were releasing Little Red Roster

We have been blessed by the music that we listened to, and let's see if we can actually spin it back around and make American white kids listen to Little Red Rooster. You had it all the time, pal, you know. You just didn't listen."

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They weren't ripping off blues/Rock n' Roll, they were massively influenced by it and wanted to play it because they loved it. Only with their own voice. This wasn't Pat fucking Boone cleaning the blues and turning it into a toothpaste commercial to appeal to racist America, they still had that gritty feel.

and you've only been a slight prock to me a couple of times, so... fuck it, we're even

I've racked my brains and I honestly can't remember when we've crossed paths before. Either way I apologise.