Quote:
|
Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You've totally contradicted yourself there. You're saying in this post that you hate the fact that white people are trying to sound black, but then in your previous quote you go on saying about how with Action you don't feel "Wow, this guy really is white inn't he?". But...but he's white...
|
I get what you're saying, but I think you misunderstood, or I was unclear. When I refer to those "Damn, this guy really is white inn't he?" artists I'm talking about the ones who try so hard to sound like they're not white. It's like, for all the effort Eminem put into developing a unique voice, he just *couldn't* shake that godawful conversational "street drawl" of his. So even though his flow was successfully and refreshingly not a shameful imitation of Dre, Meth, Pac or BIG, he still couldn't overcome his inclination to distance himself from Whitie. So he adopted mannerisms that were so awkwardly unnatural that even he just makes me think "Damn... This motherfucker sure is WHITE! I mean, listen to how subtle and cool he's trying to be about his very his very obvious attempt to NOT sound like whatever he thinks a lame white guy sounds like!"
In the end, all it did was make him more conspicuous.
Action Bronson DOES sound pretty white... like a white Ghostface, maybe, but white nonetheless. As a result, I'm not preoccupied by thoughts of how utterly white he is when I listen to him. But when I'm listening to a rapper who really lays on the "street" accent to compensate for his whiteness, it's really hard to think about anything else.
Quote:
Originally posted by h8kurdt:
As for white kids wanting to sound black, what can you expect.? A music industry as huge and influential as rap has become is gonna push kids into wanting to speak the lingo and slang of their favourite rappers (who are generally black). The exoticism and 'other-worldly', and to be honest almost romanticised world of rap makes kids think the living in the slums where some of the greats have come out is cool. Is it? Fuck no. The problem is that you have an industry pushing the worst kind of gangster rap from 50 Cent to DMX (you may like them, but fuck 'em) and make drug dealing, gun crime etc. seem almost cool. When you look properly at what Wu Tang, GZA, and certainly more recently, Kendrick are saying this is only their world because they've been forced into it.
Kids are susceptible and easy to influence. It takes someone interesting to rap in their own voice white or black. But it's also in some ways harder for them to break out.
|
Cool! Fine! That's not at all what I was talking about of course, and it's not what I took issue with... But.. Y'know... Sure!
Anyway... I think we're veering wildly off topic with the Keith Richards quotes and all the generalizing. All I said was that I don't like most white rappers, but I like plenty of them. I don't like the ones who are trying to talk like black people because I find that entire idea kind of disgusting, and I think some of our deep-seated racism becomes humiliatingly obvious when the "totally liberal" media pretends that the Mackelmores of the world are Grammy-contenders, and champions of a genre, when in reality they're the worst the genre has to offer, and I know SO many rappers who deserve a tiny bit of credit for their amazing work that it irks me when Mackelmore gets Grammys and Album of the Year nods and XXL's Artist of the Year award when his output is like a flaming bag of dogshit compared to the WORST of Fabolous's recent mixtapes. You know?
But let's stop talking about this now, and move on to something less polarizing and time consuming.