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!@#$%! · 07.23.2015, 07:37 PM

eh, made no sense and it was irritating, but let's not get hanged up on that & move forward.

i agree totally with nailing down a good team before an important tournament. unless your goal is to use the tournament as a prep, like mexico and jamaica did at copa américa (mexico clearly relaxed after their brilliant chile match).

but see, copa américa is also only a waystation for south american teams-- the real goal is the world cup. that's what everyone drools after.

one weirdness of this concacaf cup was that you could replace 6 players mid-tournament. hence jozy was sent home. wtf? it invites this kind of shuffling. ridiculous.

but yes, some coaches fuck too much with lineups. guardiola as you've read here repeatedly has been doing that at bayern. put lahm as midfielder and gets an inferior right back in rafinha then other teams score easy. all sorts of schemes and formations. sometimes they're lost in space.

with klinsmann i understood the shuffling was supposed to lead somewhere-- a filtering, a selection. they had some decent victories against holland and germany. it's definitely going somewhere in terms of style. they look better.

now this game i just watched, they were good, they were better even, but they couldn't score---

not being able to score is of course not just "luck"-- it also comes down to understanding (or a lack of it) between players-- knowing where your teammate is, what are his instincts, what foot he favors, etc. and without constant practice and a consistent lineup it's going to be fucked up.

so yeah, he needs to nail down the official squad already and start training that.

but i also think it's a good idea to get rid of old players. germany did that in 2010, failed, but then won the world cup in 2014 once the "utes" had matured.

why is beckermann a starter at 33? he won't play in 2018. he should be in the bench, let the new kids accrue some mileage.

anyway, he'd better come up with a solution fast. dempsey is indispensable right now but he's going to be 36 in 2018-- hardly the age to be a starter (unless you're totti)

and fuck, getting more and better enemies is a good thing. if jamaica stays good it will only be a good thing for USA-- a lack of competition makes one lazy and weak and complacent.

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ETA
@ demonyo- i don't think of usa under bradley as an "identity". kinda like saying, "wow, that fetus sure has character!" it was basic kick-and-run boring-as-shit lame play. a team or nation has an identity if it develops a school, a philosophy, a tradition, a contribution to the game. it's not just about some temporary tactical plan. usa under bradley if anything was a non-entity. i'll take bruce arena's well-coordinated triangulations and intelligence over bradley's stubbon passivity any day.

ETA2

here's why arena is the best american coach to date
http://cornerofthegalaxy.com/2015/06...game-strategy/

07.23.2015, 07:37 PM	#7174
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,729	eh, made no sense and it was irritating, but let's not get hanged up on that & move forward. i agree totally with nailing down a good team before an important tournament. unless your goal is to use the tournament as a prep, like mexico and jamaica did at copa américa (mexico clearly relaxed after their brilliant chile match). but see, copa américa is also only a waystation for south american teams-- the real goal is the world cup. that's what everyone drools after. one weirdness of this concacaf cup was that you could replace 6 players mid-tournament. hence jozy was sent home. wtf? it invites this kind of shuffling. ridiculous. but yes, some coaches fuck too much with lineups. guardiola as you've read here repeatedly has been doing that at bayern. put lahm as midfielder and gets an inferior right back in rafinha then other teams score easy. all sorts of schemes and formations. sometimes they're lost in space. with klinsmann i understood the shuffling was supposed to lead somewhere-- a filtering, a selection. they had some decent victories against holland and germany. it's definitely going somewhere in terms of style. they look better. now this game i just watched, they were good, they were better even, but they couldn't score--- not being able to score is of course not just "luck"-- it also comes down to understanding (or a lack of it) between players-- knowing where your teammate is, what are his instincts, what foot he favors, etc. and without constant practice and a consistent lineup it's going to be fucked up. so yeah, he needs to nail down the official squad already and start training that. but i also think it's a good idea to get rid of old players. germany did that in 2010, failed, but then won the world cup in 2014 once the "utes" had matured. why is beckermann a starter at 33? he won't play in 2018. he should be in the bench, let the new kids accrue some mileage. anyway, he'd better come up with a solution fast. dempsey is indispensable right now but he's going to be 36 in 2018-- hardly the age to be a starter (unless you're totti) and fuck, getting more and better enemies is a good thing. if jamaica stays good it will only be a good thing for USA-- a lack of competition makes one lazy and weak and complacent. -- ETA @ demonyo- i don't think of usa under bradley as an "identity". kinda like saying, "wow, that fetus sure has character!" it was basic kick-and-run boring-as-shit lame play. a team or nation has an identity if it develops a school, a philosophy, a tradition, a contribution to the game. it's not just about some temporary tactical plan. usa under bradley if anything was a non-entity. i'll take bruce arena's well-coordinated triangulations and intelligence over bradley's stubbon passivity any day. ETA2 here's why arena is the best american coach to date http://cornerofthegalaxy.com/2015/06...game-strategy/
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