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Originally Posted by dead_battery
right.
at least in terminator the default setting is to use machines to war against the machines (going to war against them at all is bad enough)
but things get worse as time goes on
the matrix is very explicitly about a race war against digital post humans/machines. in fact the matrix KILLED cyberpunk because the vision put forth as a respite from the supposedly evil matrix is if you poke at it closely enough some sort of hippie communitarianism, regressive and one step away from primitivism and agrarianism - i know that that is not ever spelt out directly in the films but it is imo what's lurking in their unconscious and the next logical step that the zionists (lol) in that film want to take.
in oblivion it's got even worse and tom cruise goes psychotic in the face of his own simulacra and murders what is essentially a bossy female ipod to restore his post apocalyptic heterosexual primacy.
i wish i could point to examples that defied the trend but i just can't. it just got worse and worse.
noone could even MATCH the aesthetic of blade runner.
imo the epitome of this shitstorm was the star trek remakes, which is SCIENCE FICTION WHICH GIVES US A VISION OF THE FUTURE THAT HAS BEEN OUT OF DATE SINCE THE 60'S. this is the biggest betrayal of what star trek was about but whats even worse is that it seems to have gone unnoticed. like - people in 2010 accepted a science fiction movie that was 50 years out of date, nevermind DEALING WITH THE FUCKING TECHNOLOGICAL FUTURE WHICH IS WHAT SCI FI IS SUPPOSED TO DO!
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Hmm... I don't know that I agree about Star Trek. I liked the "remakes" ... which are actually not remakes but a chronicle of how the events of the original films occurred in an alternate timeline... but I don't know that Star Trek is even really about technology, or ever has been.
to me it's more about the persistence and re-emergence of humanity's imperfections in a utopian setting where conflict shouldn't exist,but still somehow does. I know that storyline was largely abandoned after the original series, but I think the franchise still focuses on the faulty ideal of perfection. Violence begets violence... The fact that, even if humanity and other closely related species have evolved beyond the need for violence, they only REACHED that stage of evolution after centuries and centuries of... what? Violence. Which is then mirrored back to them as their influence and periphery expands. It's almost a karma story.
Honestly, I don't feel that technology has ever been the point of Star Trek... aside from certain storylines and characters in the TNG era... the original series is about humanity and friendship, with a lot of military and economic microcosm shit going on in the background.
It's not cyberpunk... Star Trek is space opera. Sci Fi is more multifaceted than your giving it credit for.