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Originally Posted by Drjohnrock

They probably went to the same place that 1980 third party candidate John Anderson's "new movement" that he said he was inaugurating went--The Land Of Permanent Obscurity. The same thing will happen to Sanders' "revolution" after the election--if not before. Sanders--long time Senator, certainly no outsider--is a lot like Trump: pie in the sky positions, attacking anyone and everyone who isn't him, complaining about how the Democratic Party's election procedures are "rigged" when everything doesn't go exactly his way. If Sanders--a non-Democrat just like Trump is a non-Republican--was so concerned about how "rigged" things were, why wasn't he doing anything about them in the many years before he ran? Sanders supporters, it was never about you or your concerns. It was all about "the Bern" and his ego-driven campaign near the end of a long career as a mostly unknown senator who accomplished little. Good riddance.

maybe, but you can't ignore the fact that both bernie from the left and drumpf from the right address popular concerns that "centrist" corporatocrats either a) pretend aren't there, b) promise to cure with remedies that haven't worked (e.g. supply-side economics or identity politics).

sure, the destruction of the american middle class is mainly the product of technology and globalization, and there is little that politicians in the pocket of big business are going to do about it-- but just because those are pie in the sky promises under the current system it doesn't mean that the popular concerns addressed by these promises aren't legitimate.

fdr's new deal wasn't just a response to the great depression-- it was also a way to lure the masses away from the utopian promises of bolshevism. hillary is no fdr and offers only remedial gradualism. Which may be all that is possible. So the enthusiasm for her candidacy comes mostly from a fear of trump, i think.

and trump may be crazy egomaniac fucker who offers scapegoating and grandiosity as a solution, but he knows where people are hurting, calls bullshit on the current political program of both parties, and connects with his audience. hillary's wonkiness is going to get creamed by that. with luck, trump self-destructs first, and fear of him elects hillary.