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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
severian, rap music has a very established history of gang culture. your criticism is like soooooo 25 years ago.
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Gang rap is sooooo 25 years ago too.
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gang rap is like any musical subgenre, it reflects a particular culture and experience. hardcore crust punk isn't for everyone either, but if you a crusty drunk gutter punk they are singing your songs. well gangs like music too, and there is an extensive history pf gang oriented and affiliated rap. personally i think you're out of line to be so hyper critical of such. that is them. if it ain't you don't listen to it but like Pac said "check this you don't have to like the music but please respect it."
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It's not the music I don't respect (in this discussion) ... Obviously, as I've said again and again, it's the shameless promotion of gang culture. I already touched on how this shit can be a part of music without being an advertisement for gang behavior.
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do you hate NWA too? the Seven Day Theory? Ready 2 Die? sometimes its actually important for art to reflect reality, and its important for yes even violent gangs to have music and culture they can relate to and find means of personal expression.
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Again, already touched on how these folks can make music that reflects their reality without saying "hey everyone, I'm a Blood, Bloods are cool, idolize Bloods!" Neither Pac nor Big ever did this. They made violence part of their music, yeah, but they didn't
encourage and promote gang behavior which is exactly what YG is doing.
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BUT i can understand and yes respect it
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Good for you. You're SO open minded that you "respect" gang culture. I am not that open minded, and I think it's insane to claim that anyone, anywhere should respect it.
Meanwhile, you can't hear the musical innovations of Kanye West. You can't respect him. So yeah, you're probably a little biased because of your regional pride, and that bias is making you ignore and even loathe legitimately respectable music, and respect and defend legitimately loathsome marketing campaigns that encourage pure negativity.
You should do something about that bias. It's making you say stupid shit.