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!@#$%! · 09.12.2016, 10:19 AM

re: the glass jaw, the record for pep at bayern isn't that great. i know this is a bold statement, but hear me out.

the bundesliga trophy was always a foregone conclusion. he came in after heynckes won it all, and the domination of the bundesliga in his era was carried out by pilfering the opposition (gotze, lewandowski), not just superior tactics.

bayern is also the only team that can financially resist the allure of the prem. so when man city took away a genius like debruyne, who was the heart and soul of wolfsburg, wolfsburg collapsed. stuff like that isn't pep's doing-- it's bayern's long history of good fiscal management that allows them to keep great players.

so when pep was brought to take bayern to another level that didn't mean dominating germany. it meant dominating europe. it meant being above everyone else everywhere. at this, he failed.

yes, he'd beat roma 7-1 some day and make it look like a hallucination, but on another day he'd get creamed by real 4-0 or repeatedly destroyed by simeone. so in this sense his mission was a failure.

yes, he did some brilliant things no doubt, and gave the germans a good spectacle, and had some genius hires (xabi alonso, vidal), and is no doubt a great philosopher of the beautiful game, but when it comes to results he failed thrice at what he was brought to do, and that's ultimately the standard by which he needs to be measured. 0-3.

and yes, i'm suprised by silva's rise! and definitely want to see him. more about that later.

09.12.2016, 10:19 AM	#7595
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,731	re: the glass jaw, the record for pep at bayern isn't that great. i know this is a bold statement, but hear me out. the bundesliga trophy was always a foregone conclusion. he came in after heynckes won it all, and the domination of the bundesliga in his era was carried out by pilfering the opposition (gotze, lewandowski), not just superior tactics. bayern is also the only team that can financially resist the allure of the prem. so when man city took away a genius like debruyne, who was the heart and soul of wolfsburg, wolfsburg collapsed. stuff like that isn't pep's doing-- it's bayern's long history of good fiscal management that allows them to keep great players. so when pep was brought to take bayern to another level that didn't mean dominating germany. it meant dominating europe. it meant being above everyone else everywhere. at this, he failed. yes, he'd beat roma 7-1 some day and make it look like a hallucination, but on another day he'd get creamed by real 4-0 or repeatedly destroyed by simeone. so in this sense his mission was a failure. yes, he did some brilliant things no doubt, and gave the germans a good spectacle, and had some genius hires (xabi alonso, vidal), and is no doubt a great philosopher of the beautiful game, but when it comes to results he failed thrice at what he was brought to do, and that's ultimately the standard by which he needs to be measured. 0-3. and yes, i'm suprised by silva's rise! and definitely want to see him. more about that later.
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