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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
my position here is that trump must not just be defeated, but thoroughly humiliated, so that never again another monster like him is allowed to rise-- and the despicables know once and for all that the country stands against racism, xenophobia, willful ignorance and many other things too long and sad to list over & over on a lazy sunday morning.
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^ FUCK. YES.
This is it, summed up perfectly. As I said in my pms to you, SFAD, THIS is what I want to hear from the people I know and trust. Truthfully, it's a mindfuck that anyone would be able to conjure up any reason at all to disagree with this.
If you voted against H.W., or W. or McCain or Romney, I can't imagine why you'd even have to stop and think about wanting to drop Donald Trump and turn him into less than a footnote in history.
As I also said in my pms, keeping that psychopath out of office and stopping his influence may be be most important thing our generation is tasked with in our lifetime. That is, if he isn't stopped... if he DOES somehow win, we will never be able to unfuck ourselves. That's not hyperbole. Not this time. It's serious as death.
So you see the conversation isn't about how great Hillary is. It's about how terrifying this demagogue — this abomination, this sadistic fuck who represents the worst of the worst of America — is, and how completely and utterly he would bastardized the democratic republic you hold so dear. America wouldn't come back from Trump.
I think, simply put, for those of us who disagree with you, it's just not a passable argument that Hillary hasn't done enough to "inspire" you to vote. It may be perfectly reasonable from a political standpoint, but given the circumstances, it sounds a bit nutty. It's not personal -- this isn't about you and how much we like ganging up on you.** It's just (speaking for myself here) more than a little hard to grasp how you of all people would sit this one out.
** Seriously - Symbols and I have talked about the old "internet discussion gang-up" before, and it's not a good look. I promise you, nobody's high-firing anyone.