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Old 11.02.2016, 09:30 AM   #1513
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Originally Posted by Severian
She and I actually aren't ok speaking terms about this election and haven't been since I voted Hillary in the primaries. She's voting Stein and will not hear a word of argument or entertain the briefest discussion about why she should do otherwise..
yeah you read stein's platform and it's a wonderful pie-in-the-sky set of ideals. i'd love to see a world like that. i don't know that jill stein is the person that will bring about that world though.

and politics is politics. you can't lead the population by jamming policies down their throats. it's a bit like gay marriage-- a couple of decades ago it was unthinkable, now it's the law of the land. why? was it because a political party decided to make it part of its legislative agenda? no. it was because public perceptions of gay people changed.

sure a lot of effort and activism went into passing the laws and fighting the reactionaries, but without broad public support it would have been all moot.

my point is, i guess, that any sort of policy needs a wide social consensus. avant-gardism can't cut it withe the general public. so i don't know that america is ready for a green world. but likely in a couple of decades some of their platform will be mainstream and acceptable for liberals and goobers alike (well, with goobers i don't know... they're still denying evolution).

right now though, it's a wasted vote i'm afraid. but you already knew that.

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But yeah, I actually networked with a few elderly Dems. at a congressional debate tonight, and I will be driving two lovely old gals to the voting booths next Tuesday to Hillary the fuck out this bitch.

do you guys have early voting there? vote early/vote often! :P
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