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Originally Posted by noisereductions
PS: I think I was also pissed that there was a song called "Derelict" which turned out to NOT be the song "Buried Alive" that he had been playing on tour that had the chorus "but that's got nothing to do with you/pointing a derelict's finger at you..." which was an incredible song and should have been on an album.
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I didn't really know this shit about Beck way back then (when Odelay was released). I knew Loser and I had Mellow Gold, but if I'm being totally honest, my favorite track on Mellow Gold was "Pay No Mind," which is probably the most traditional. I liked "Soul Suckin' Jerk" but it kinda freaked me out too, like some Butthole Surfers shit and the most twisted Lips songs did when I was a tween.
Seems like you're a much bigger fan of Beck than I am, ever have been, or probably ever will be. I do think he's positively dope, and capable of great things — I just don't think he's recorded many of those great things.
Odelay was the album that made me take notice. It was just so, so good. I still wanted most of my music to be rock-oriented back then, and the fact that so much of it wasn't was really eye-opening for me.
I thought Beck was THE creative force behind Odelay though. Like, I basically thought he was skinny, nerdy, hipster Trent Reznor. Write, play, produce everything, etc. and I guess he does write and play more than most, but I think Odelay was more of a Dust Brothers "production" like you said. Sort of like how producers in the 2010s will release an album under their name with vocals from a ton of motherfuckers. Odelay was like the embryonic version of that. Producers didn't mean shit to most people, and I don't even think they were credited on the album notes (?), but this was like the 1996 version of... y'know... Flying Lotus' You're Dead. Only it was all Beck vocals n' shit.
I'm so tired and my carpel tunnel is acting up. Work is for bitchasses.
Odelay rules! It's like the sequel to Paul's Boutique. Paul's version 2.0. Updated for MTV2 audiences. God I love it.
Anyone who thinks it sucks... sucks.