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Originally Posted by Severian

Dark Knight is a great movie in spite of Batvoice and you all goddamn well know it.

honestly not saying this to fuck with you or anything but no way

i understand that you particularly as a batman fan might have an inordinately strong liking for it, but from there to say "great movie' it does not necessarily follow.

i understand also that nolan did very good for superhero movies, "greatness" is a different standard to reach. though i liked avengers more because it didn't take itself so seriously and was very funny.

me i like this little movie from the 90s called "big night." it's an indie flick about food, and i like food a lot, and i've cooked since long before it was fashionable. but while i'm super-fond of the thing, and i really like the actors, and i love the whole thing, i can't in good conscience claim it's a great movie because... it's just not a great movie or the best of anything.

so hm yeah. taken out of the superhero context i can't see how it would be a "great" movie or why. it was the best of the three and it wasn't bad and had great technological fireworks but from there to great movie caliber it's a big leap.

this is not to say that you can't or shouldn't like it. just saying that it's very hard to universalize your particular.