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Originally Posted by evollove
While there are some good points in there, I'm ultimately calling bullshit. If Trump had given Putin a violent tongue-lashing, you'd be praising him for being tough.
(Although to be fair, the left would be condemning him for provoking a fight.)
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Mueller's probe has led to indictments. People broke the law. Anyone who authentically cares about "law and order" should be pleased so far.
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To say the US is even partly responsible for being attacked by Russia is fucked.
So why cozy up? So we can trade? To avoid a nuclear war?
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I appreciate your overall response, I’m going to try and address the above.
Saying the United States is partially to blame does leave a bad taste in ones mouth. I recall the same taste every time Obama made excuses for Muslims attacking and killing people.
RE Mueller’s probe......not one of those indictments were related to collusion, hacking or meddling with Russia.
Why cozy up / no tongue lashing?
I believe it’s reasonable enough to assume our President thought this was the best course of action after their first meeting. Not so much to avoid nuclear war, but possibly a step toward addressing the atrocities occurring in Syria. Applying pressure to Putin while at the same time offering a path to change.
It could all be for not, time wasted......but after the considerations given last month, it just seems logical to do the same this month.
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Originally Posted by Skuj
Even most GOP (rightly) thought it was surreal that a POTUS would say he takes Putin's word over his own Intelligence Agencies
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I feel ya, Skuj!
Just to be clear, these are the same Intelligence Agencies that lied to The American People about survelling our activities......collecting our data and websites we visit......shaping our profiles based on things we’ve been saying in this thread?
A direct violation of our Construction! (
4th amendment).
Is it the same Intelligence Agency that lied about hacking
Angela Merkel’s phone?
These transgressions and violations taking place under Obama & Hillary’s watch. YES - I believe they had things so screwed up that President Trump’s statements were 100% TRUTH!!!
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Originally Posted by Skuj
Surely we weren't this gullible 10-20 years ago?
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Originally Posted by tw2113
I think we were, we just weren't aware of how widespread it is.
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September 11, 2001