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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The whole point was that both teams employed a try not to lose strategy.
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ha ha ha yes, i did not miss that this was your point, but i worded my response imprecisely. sorry about the confusion
i should not have written “win” but what is the word for coming out of a contest with the strategic advantage of having avoided disaster, living to fight another day, as opposed to getting crushed by the enemy? it’s a kind of win... sorta, lol
and by strategy i idnt just mean this game but the whole campaign and winning the prem. i.e., screw up a game to win the cup.
now they will go on fighting via proxy wars, cheering for the other team’s opponent, till they meet again, maybe still even in points.
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, I saw that too. I think that fear thing has always been their with Pep. Not just towards Klopp or Liverpool. He sometimes seems overly pre-occupied with what he sees as his opponents' strengths rather than focusing on his own. It's a weird way of thinking, especially for such a successful manager - although he'd probably say that's part of why he's been so successful. It definitely explains why he tinkers so much.
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a founder/ceo of intel i forget his name andy something titled his memoirs “only the paranoid survive” ha ha ha
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It was bad for the way Klopp had initially set them up but Keita really should have made them more of an attacking threat, but it never happened. One issue seems to be that Firmino doesn't appear to function properly when Keita's there. God knows how Klopp solves that one as Firmino's too important to them for hm to be sidelined or moved to accommodate Keita, and Keita's too good (and expensive) to be reduced to super-sub status. It often happens with players in similar positions and styles (the infamous Lampard/Gerrard problem with England) but less obvious when the two players are in very different positions. Man City sort of have a similar issue with playing Sane and Mendy together, to the extent I wouldn't be surprised if Sane eventually gets sold.
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yes, but i think that the reason keita was less of a threat on attack was that he offered less defensive coverage.
the greatness of milner is that he is proper beast wherever he goes. keita was supposed to be the more refined attacker right? (i dont know the guy yet). at least my commentators were going on about how keita was gonna add the offensive touch bla bla bla.
i dont remember in what particular position milner ws that day, but regardless, he seems to operate like a box to box midfielder, great on attack and on defense. reminds me a lot of schweinsteiger in his heyday, blending skill and physicality,, only even bigger in size.
keita does not have the same presence no? does he scare and dominate people? i don’t really know the guy but i don’t think so.
so liverpool folded back to cover that defensive hole, whereas they had been on a stronger offensive footing up to that point because their backs were better covered. they lost the... what. the scaffolding? their midfield got shakier and man city started pushing forward.
up to that point liverpool was defying my expectations for the match, they had the better chances, i think if milner had stayed they would have won it. now we’ll never know ha ha ha. but yeah. those first 20 minutes my oredictionof higher chances for man city were crap.
i didn’t figure the firmino connection but i’ll look for it next time. with milner’s age and condition i understand he cannot play every game? kloppo has to work on that piece of the puzzle for sure...