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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

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yes, but i don't think the gloom and doom is going to motivate the voters as much as i think you think so.

i mean, i'm certainly preparing for all of that, realistically. but the average cabbage is more interested in cheap gas.

if this is the end of the liberal order--and by liberal i include the "classic liberals" one used to call "conservatives"--and the rise of the fascist kali yug, then we really are all fucked and there's nowhere to go.

i mean if the u.s. falls, then who's left to defend the liberal order? individual rights, the rule of law, democracy and free elections--adiós amigos.

i read today that europe has plans for a missile defense system of their own... but they also have traitors and authoritarians in their midst and they require unanimity for all sorts of stuff so i wouldn't pin my hopes on them.