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Why couldn't this simply be a public poll? Would be so much easier. I do.
Christ isn't a mythological character, if you don't believe he was divine, then he would be a legend, since he actually existed.
Atari, why was it that Kierkegaard considered Abraham and Mary as most likely to be Knights of Faith but not Jesus? I started reading a translation of Kierkegaard one day, but I was busy and needed to go do something else unfortunately and I have not got back around to it.
What other men or women has ever really spoke their mind and their beliefs so fervently to those that wanted him dead and had means to do so legally without having some military might to back them up besides Socrates and Jesus? The British government could not give Gandhi the death penalty, and Martin Luther King faced a lot of opposition, but he could only fear death at the hands of murder, not state sanctioned death, which Dostoevsky pointed out that knowing the time at which you will die is a much worse than knowing that you could die at anytime.
You could argue that all of his disciples also faced execution for spreading his message after his death, but there is a difference between being a follower and a martyr, and being a leader and a martyr. When it came down to it, Simon Peter denied Christ three times out of fear for his life.
Christ's humility wasn't in the way of believing that he may not be divine, his humility was in that he didn't lavish himself in worldly things. He drank from a carpenters cup, he dressed plainly, he drank the same cheap wine and ate the same salted fish and bread that everyone else ate.
And if you really think about it, he did tell people he was divine, but he was still pretty humble about it. He wasn't like "Hey everyone, my Dad's God, kiss my ass!" or "Hey, I'm God in the flesh, give me some money or I'll call wrath down upon you." He could turn water into wine, but he didn't promote drunkeness, he used it to bring wine to a special occasion, a wedding. He went quite a long time without food, but yet he used a meager ration of bread and fish to feed thousands who gathered to see him, but he didn't promote the Greek style of eating, they ate to satisfy themselves.
So many people on this board are such lame ass pushover "alternative" people and hipsters. That Patti Smith "Jesus died for someone else's sin's not mine" bullshit is so fucking cliche. If nothing you do is ever wrong, you are a self righteous cunt. Whatever moral structure you believe in, everyone does things that contradict that. Whether you believe he was divine or not, he died because humanity is broken, not because he as a person was broken.
There are a lot of really stupid and ignorant buddhists, but nobody would hate Sidharta for it. There are a lot of really stupid and ignorant athiests and agnostics, but I don't blame Nietzsche or Sartre for it. There are islams who fucking crash jets into buildings, but I don't blame Mohammed for it. So don't trash Jesus when there is nothing to trash him for.
Hate the imperfection of humanity, dislike the person who prescribes to believes that they do not follow, and respect the much more noble people with those ideas.
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