[!@#$%!]

the question of "animal rights" is a peculiar one-- it is religious in origin or is there a rational basis for it?

human "rights" have been conquered (by revolution, political struggle, etc), although propagandists like to say these rights are "god given" or "inherent" or what not. yah right.

now we want to extend the same rights and privileges to animals? seems to me that outside of some eastern religions only people who grew up watching bambi or mickey mouse are capable of that thinking.

experimentation with animals is not "torture", as the point is not to inflict pain or derive pleasure from it. the pain & suffering of animals is a side effect of the testing.

as human animals we lack proper fangs, speed, a tough hide & other natural advantages, but we have our knowledge. obtaining knowledge is part of our natural survival mechanisms. how we go about getting that knowledge can be morally ambiguous, but do not fool yourselves into thinking that we can do without it. unless you're waiting for another species to come & eat your young.