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the first cradle is cheesy as hell!! it's darkthrone-like song, and then some stupid satanic shit with pitch shifted vocals ritual kinda interlude which i thought of as bm skits, then another darkthrone-like song, then another skit. a friend once said that cof could replace the singer dude with a fax machine, he's right.
the first dimmu i haven't heard and probably won't hear, i saw them live, gayest metal band i've seen in concert so far (i'm yet to see manowar but i bet they come close).
good symphonic stuff: some early satyricon, sigh, some emperor...dissection are more melodic than symphonic so i can't really lump them, still ace band they were, i kick myself for not going to see them a year ago.
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