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Originally Posted by swa(y)
half the bands listed arent even techically "hardcore"...even by early 80's standards. they were just bands that originated more or less as "punk", but became closely associated with hardcore.
and harcore...was a punk rock rebellion rebellion against the first wave of punk... ( dead boys, the ramones, voidoids, blondie etc) all signed to majors or broke up up completely (some even died)...and most of these fuckers were older than yr typical "hardcore" kid...even during their beggining stages.
hardcore was totally about the kids. they couldnt get signed to majors, nor did they want too...so what they do? they started their owm labels as well as zines...pressed their own albums...etc.
the first wave...the new york "punk rock" (a term coined for a zine by legs mcniel) was a bit selfish...it was raw...it was about individual problems (which werent ussualy even hailed as "problems") drugs, sex, prostitution...there was nothing political about it.
yes...hardcore brought up some of the same issues, but it was mostly from a youthful standpoint.
fuck...jello biafra was too old to be hardcore.
and suicidal tendencies...are you fukin serious. "all i wanted was a pepsi" fukin morons. shhhhhhhiiiiit, those dudes were all about some MTV.
not gonna see minor threat on mtv.
and fuck...
what about SOA, youth brigade, teen idles, negative approach, the stains....guess none of this stuff can be found in yr local mall record store bins.
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I think you have a basic misunderstanding of what hardcore punk was at the time. Hardcore was a term used to describe bands who played generally short, fast, aggressive songs. It had nothing to do with attitude, politics, rebellion or anything else. The music just had to real move at a pace.
Hence, DK's only true hardcore record was IGWTI. Husker Du's only hardcore record was LSR, etc.
The Germs, Stains, Adolescents, SOA etc. were punk bands and not classified as hardcore at the time.
I could have added Gang Green but I don't know any of their records well enough.
And why no Bad Brains? I don't like them.