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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
however, re: giuliani, have people forgotten before 911 he was a protofascist mayor whose cops raped immigrants with toilet plungers? oh yes im putting that squarely on his shoulders-- he has a history with hatians... but anyway, he's going to wrap himself in the 911 flag and run as a hero not as the [...] who covered up and glossed over the air pollution problem in lower manhattan (asbestos hotspots, etc). anyway sure nobody is perfect but rudy giuliani is downright scary, oh, wait & see...
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very true, people do change thought with time, and compared to others in the party cept McCain he's not the worst one could do
edit: to clarify, i am not defending nobody for what anyone did
look at Al Gore, he went from PMRC's senator spokesbitch in 1985, to teaching about global warming 20 years later