Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Blatherskite
Agreed, Pookie. But I think Rock and Roll did happen when it was recognized and coined by a DJ. That's when it was thought that it could be marketed to teens with money on their hands. I know jazz was thought to be Satanic for a time, but there was also a jazz era where it was pretty well accepted in high society and all that.
Before the term was coined, it was really R & B and sped up blues. Muddy was rockin' before the idea of rock and roll was out and is a perfect example. I still think, though, that rock and roll was put out and marketed purely for rebellion when it was out. I don' think it was any intention in any point in the history of jazz to be rebellious.
|
I think we've come to a point of agreement. That the major difference during this period was marketing, which resulted largely from affluence.
The term rock 'n' roll, incidentally was used way before the 50's. Rock, roll, jazz and many other terms were just words for sex. And the terms were often misunderstood by white audiences. Rocking was having sex, rolling was having sex, so to rock
and roll...(I have a few pre-1950's songs which use the expression rock and roll, but I can't think of them off the top of my head).
Interestingly, Nick Tosches has suggested that rock n roll as rebellion ended when Elvis recorded Milk Cow Blues Boogie (1955/6?) with it's phoney false start ("Hold it fellas, that don't move me. Let's get real, real gone for a change...").