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Originally Posted by me

The police were busy interviewing someone they thought was connected to the shooter as he was leaving campus. They locked-down campus, but spent two hours interviewing the guy and treating it as a domestic homicide.

The Blacksburg police and, in turn, Va Tech, failed to notify the students that there had been a double murder on campus that day and that the suspect was still at large and definitely still on campus. Virtually no faculty or students knew about the events earlier in the morning until Seung-Hui opened fire once again some two hours later.

And this is the primary point of negligence and grounds for civil suits from the families of the slain victims. Sure, I realize that most colleges wouldn't want to necessairly broadcast that there are murders in their campus. But something could have been done. The college radio station and local tv could have at least interrupted programming. Coupled with the new details about the warning signs Seung-Hui exhibited, the case for criminal negligence grows all that much stronger.

Humans do not learn in most cases unless they are forced to pay for their mistakes.

Justice should be served.

Originally Posted by tesla69

Thats assinine. It's not like they arrested the guy that morning and then gave him back his gun and said have a nice day.

I am beginning to wonder whether or not it's worth debating with you. All I did was factually recount that the police spent too much critical time intwerviewing an alleged acquaintance (I don't know who the fuck you're writing about) of Seung-Hui instead of actively pursuing Seung-Hui. They erroneously concluded that the iniital shooting of the girl in his dorm and the R.A. was a domestic homicide. There is no debating this fact that the police made a faulty assumption. I realize no officer or protocol is 100% perfect, but it seems quite inexcusable that the police and VA Tech made no attempts (at least according the the information thus known) to announce to the students that a double homicide had been committed on campus that morning and that the suspect was still at large and definitely still on campus. (the police had locket it down). It's my understanding that virtually no one, relatively speaking, on campus really knew what was going on until he opened fired again some two hours later. I call this negligence, at least on some level, sorry.

Originally Posted by tesla69

99% of the creative types I knew in the hardcore or industrial noise scenes could be classified as loonies if their creative work is a criteria for sanity.

Stop worrying and being paranoid for your own sake for a second, will ya?

Originally Posted by tesla69

Suing the college is only going to make some lawyers and parents wealthy. The kids will still be very fucking dead.

No, I was just stating the unequivocal fact that humans do not learn if they are not forced to pay for their mistakes, which is, unfortunately, absolutely true. Would you opt for things to possibly get better? It seems you've resigned yourself to only expect the worst.

Originally Posted by tesla69

The logical conclusion of your arguement is all surveillance all the time.

No, I insisted earlier that any constitutional reform would be trepedatious territory for that very reason...but it's still necessary...not just because of this tragedy, but because of the tragedies that occur every day that could be diminished if a reasonable policy were pursued.
The Justice Department could work with State Governments to strengthen our existing laws and regulation. It won't happen though, although I will expect more hot air to be blown around. Too many gun nuts are brainwashed and the lobbies that support the gun manufacturers (you know, the human scum you're supporting) are too wealthy to be stopped without some aggressive policy. The vast majority of lawmakers are in their pockets. I just hope a massacre like this one will work on some of their sensibilities to change things maybe a little for the better.

Originally Posted by tesla69

But its still ok for a hundred people a day to get blown up in Iraq. We must maintain that rate of deaths at all costs or not be loyal americans.

And I am with you on the last sentiment. I find it really phoney that people get so worked into a tizzy just because it was thirty-three victims when so many die in Iraq needlesly (bad policy, outmoded equipment) and furthermore, it's ridiculous considering how many handgun murders there are every day. (Which is precisely why in my very first post in this thread, I alluded to a attitudinal change in our gun laws to be "long overdue.") You can thank Virginia and it's lackadaisical laws on handguns for most of those homicides in New York you get every year, tesla69.