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Originally Posted by swa(y)
by no means was "the idiot" the beggining of industrial music. at all at all at all....im sure bowie had an influence on alot of yr original industrial acts....but i dont think the idiot had anything to do with it.
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I think that is sort of a hard argument to make, that "the idiot" didn't have any influence. By no means was it the first album that brought those kind of vibes to the table though.
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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i dont think "punk purists" are retards, i just think alot of those kids are working with a different mentality than most. punk rock has certainly had a drastic effect on some people, and i cant blame em for taking it too seriously...and on that note....iggy never really claimed to be "punk". hes often put down for "selling out" or whatever, but he never really claimed to be anything that he sold out against....if that makes any sense?
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By different mentality do you mean a retard mentality? The mentality that all music has to sound the same? The mentality that drives these kids to go see "punk bands" that sound like really shitty versions of Suicidal Tendencies and Black Flag even though it is 2007 not 1987? I mean, I fucking love punk. . . but I am not gonna listen to a bunch of new bands that are just living in the fucking past. I'd rather listen to the bands from the past and live there myself.
Iggy was never financially stable until Bowie's "Let's Dance" came out, because China Girl became a huge hit. He definitely never sold out. . . he got signed to a RCA because Bowie got them to, he didn't change his sound to get on RCA (and once he got on RCA, supposedly he spent his advance all on drugs.)
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Originally Posted by swa(y)
but, as for me, i dont care to talk to any punk rock kids that have never heard the stooges, unless its me telling em they need to hear funhouse or some shit..heh
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I don't really judge people by their music taste, but once I'm friends with them I'll start insulting it.