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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Anger and Fassbinder in the pantheon of true genius? Love Fassbinder to bits but he was never no Anger. And I'm sure he'd say the same were he alive today.

The Film Pantheon according to DR666:

Kenneth Anger
Sergei Eisenstein
Sergo Paradjanov
Stan Brakhage

That's it for me.

maybe, but both anger and brakhage put me to sleep (im sorry! it's true!), whereas fassbinder... such enthralling films!!

see i need plot and character in film. i enjoy a good story. i don't ask for conventional means to tell it, but i can't get into shit that's too abstract or symbolic. i love their footage, both of them, but to me the long form does not suit them. i love kustom kar kommandos & scorpio rising but his longer movies well i struggled to stay awake. im not trying to mock anybody here, it's a true fact, and maybe i'm just exposing myself as a vulgar ignoramus but that's what's happened-- also with brackage's films-- i fall asleep in about 15'. marvellous stills, but stitched together they are soporific to my mind.

about fassbinder: the first time i saw one of his movies it was chinese roulette; it was a dank basement i was seventeen and i never recovered. nope. he has so many incredible movies-- veronika voss, the marriage of maria braun, mother kusters goes to heaven, satan's brew!! he is awesome and maybe his cinematography was not up to par with some of the fascinating things you mention but what characters, what stories & what merciless skewering of society-- that's probably very 70's, as political films have tended to fall out of fashion since the 80s maybe? but genius, genius work. and i want to see it all. they day i finally get my hands on berlin alexanderplatz will be a happy one.

i have never seen any paradjanov but you've piqued my curiosity and i'm rejoining greencine this month, so...

http://www.greencine.com/character?pid=16231