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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
well what habermas would argue is that the project of modernity remains unfinished and its discontents jumped off too early into postmodernism so to speak.
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In music (I don't know a lot about other things), WW2 was a big force in this "jumping off." I think a good point can be made. Modernism was trucking along just fine (Stravinsky and neo-classicism I see as just another part, not some sort of problem). After WW2, Boulez, Stockhausen and that crowd jumped off the end, severing all ties to tradition. You want to talk about music that nobody listens to? Check out the total serialism of the 50's. So Post-Modernism in music reared its head in the 60's as a response. In my view, people jumped off modernism because modernism broke all ties with tradition and severed its own trajectory. WW2 was a big reason.
There are composers who are trying to pick up where Bartok, Stravinsky, Berg, and so on left off before WW2 and it could happen, but I don't think that social conditions would allow for anything substantial.
It's no coincidence that pop music became serious in the 60's and I'm thinking of the Beatles.
By the way, I'm not knocking Boulez, Stravinsky, and those guys. They saw the error in their ways and started making awesome music that really inspired new music of all kinds. Handed off the baton in a way.