[ricechex]

After i gave us a chance to end this thing, u continue. That's sad.

Khchris: Are you sure that it's more divided on the right than it is on the left? How would you explain Bush being re-elected for a 2nd term?

RC: Yes, with people the likes of Dennis Hastert coming out against a Bush nominee before Bush even announces the nominee? uh-huh.See, Bush likes division, but not in his own party. he wants them to fall in line, like most presidents. But again, we're talking immigration, and it is very important, more important, that he has his Republicans in line at this point.

and yes, simply b/c, sadly, america gets the government they deserve. if they watch FOX news i.e., and get swayed by republican smear, and taken down swift boats, they end up like u. hehe. there's no way on earth u voted democrat, ever.

So, the traditional conservative viewpoint it to put a halt on people wanting to come to the country?(hehehe...I just had to laugh

RC: YES, tho not completely, obviously. andd they especially single out certain types of people,("minorities") unfortunately. Conservative Bush guy at work today: "they don't speak english, they're towelheads"... They have been on that side of the issue, in relative terms, against liberals. U don't know that?

KH: Oh, but um...didn't Clinton get NAFTA passed and wasn't "outsourcing" already a problem before GWB got elected as president?

RC: ahh, where's that damn quote: khchris: "Today's "outsourcing" is a much bigger problem than when Clinton got NAFTA passed..

bingo. This is what u do, by the way. Clinton, Nafta, fine. Outosourcing today, larger problem. That's it. I'm fine with that, but what is yr problem?

what u fail to see is,and what i have demonstrated is, these r debates. some might think i am right, some might think i am wrong. in my political debate courses at the university(clearing throat), i experienced your type of approach. Attack anything and everything, for the sake of it, b/c u don't like what is being said. So instead of choosing to understand what that person has to say, and where they are going with it, u choose to undermine it, and nickel and dime to death. u must be miserable to hang with, very anal, and correct everybody.

all i wanted was to lay my 0.2 down and u came charging in. listen, u already agreed to my two points, about outsourcing being a larger problem than when Nafta was started, and the 80's being the largest single decade for growth of the japanese auto in relative terms.

i have already won a few pages back. but i think we perhaps should continue here, people. haha. it may just be the medcine khchris needs to understand that u cannot cry and badger, and whine, yr way out of a disagreement for petty personal issues.