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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Well, you're probably a bigger VU fan than me, so I know you're not dissing him. Nonetheless, now that it's been vindicated by a touring string ensemble playing Metal Machine Music, I think the validity of it as a real electronic music composition stands pretty clear to anyone that wants to see it. Cale's comments could easily be applied to 2/3s of the electronic music composers, so yeah it does sound like the classic case of a classically trained musician being pissed off by less academic musicians using technological short cuts. The argument is worthwhile in that it creates a couple different schools of music that both produce great work. Cale, however, is ever the reactionary (which doesn't take away from my loving a great deal of his music). I remember a Melody Maker interview where he summed up hip hop music in the single word of "rubbish". Right now I'm listening to Dalek who combine hip hop with post-MMM type noise, and I'm sure he'd hate it.
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This is a bit of a splitting hairs argument - bear in mind Zeitkraker have also transcribed quite a few noise musicians; and, to return with an argument that splits hairs again, electro-acoustic composition is as valid as any other composition, but I would argue it's a distinct
modus operandi.
Also, Cale is classically trained, I wouldn't say he's a classically trained composer.
Pointless, pointless post, I'm very sorry.