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Originally Posted by swa(y)
what makes them hardcore?
are they under the age of 24? are they signed to a label? were they around in the early 80s? if you answered "yes" to any of these questions, i think its questionable as to wether or not refused are hardcore.
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Man, this is stupid, but anyway:
Refused were hardcore. They were a huge part of the hardcore movement in Umea which influenced a huge majority of Sweden and then internationally too.
The Shape of Punk to Come was not Refuseds first album. That was their album that they wanted to progress and make something more out of punk music, hence the title. And they did a splendid job of it too. Therefore, what's more punk than that?
Anyway, listen to their first couple of albums, they're standard hardcore albums (well maybe "Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent" was more of a sign of what was to come from them. But still very indicative of hardcore), hence why they've got nothing on The Shape...