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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
hmmm...i've also started to think about the "beginners" part of the beginners guide you mentioned...if someone came from listening to anything remotely discordant and then faced with an incapacitants record, they probably would not listen to a single sound without covering their ears.
most people begin listening to dissonant rock or free jazz and at some point get plugged to noise. i don't know how a harsh-harsher-harshest scenario can work; in my case, i liked noisy rock for a long time, then listened to other stuff that was kinda ok (wolf eyes, sightings) but it wasn't until i heard merzbow's veneorology that i really got excited about this, mainly because how opressive and 'unlistenable' it was.
therefore, i would recommend to anyone getting into noise to get straight to the harsh shit (masonna, merzbow, incapacitants, hiyokaidan, etc.).
one album, though, that's probably the best introduction and not because it's soft enough to be liked at first listen, it's hard as fuck, but at the same time it's well arranged and executed it's one of the best albums from start to finish. kevin drumm's sheer hellish miasma.
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Yeah, but all the stuff that you mentioned is:
- From people who turned noise into an art form, complete with its own aesthetics. Note that all the musicians that you have mentioned happen to be Japanese, who remain the true masters in this field.
- Sonic Youth get tagged as noise rock all the time, and for a reason too, but I doubt that they would have been able to make the records that they have made if noise was the sole influence on their music.
- Not exactly everyone who listens to free jazz is automatically into noise music. There's noise in free jazz but it's generally created by people who can also play conventionally, as well as non-conventionally, thus giving the listeners much less of a hard time trying to work out why someone is (non)playing like that.