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Old 12.09.2007, 02:19 AM   #32
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i think alot of the tzadik stuff is great, period. ruins and painkiller...both excellent. i like fema ephron too. sadly enough i dont care for anything ikue has done (as far as her solo stuff...i like DNA and some of the improvy shows ive downloaded featuring her w/ other musicians)..didnt really like the syr she did with kim too much, either. it was okay at times.

I like most Ikue stuff I've heard, but she does seem to benefit best with somebody interesting to play off. Specializing in drum machines is going to make that inevitable though. I thought the SYR with Kim and DJ Olive was the lowpoint of the series. It's o.k. in the middle of a series that's mostly brilliant. They shouldn't have put it out as SYR.

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melvins are pretty much as "noise rock" as it gets in my opinion. i never really thought of em as grunge, other than just being there...but then again i dont think of many bands as being "grunge". i love those guys...to death. of course, being around as long as they have some of their stuff is much better than some of their other shit...but some of my fav. albums ever..fav "rock" albums anyways, are from that band. houdini is just killer. pigs of the roman empire blue my mind, too.

Well, grunge is definitely a term we'd all be better off to have eradicated from the human consciousness. Obviously the Melvins don't belong in any way in the same genre with Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains, yet they certainly have more connection to Mudhoney and Nirvana than just friendships and common members. Arguably "grunge" was originally a fusing of Sabbath style metal with Sonic Youth/Wipers style noise rock, and the Melvins were the original fusers.

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i downloaded some skullflower stuff once i was bored by it, i should prolly try them again sometime.

Skullflower is like that sometimes for sure. Boredom is one reaction to pure noise stuff that is not unjustified or even unwanted necessarily. Then when you hit it just right, it can make perfect sense. I like their newest stuff best as it's oddly somewhat pretty. Though the very same stuff I'm describing that way brought a old, bald, seriously freaked out, security guard down to the basement when I was doing my radio show one morning to make sure I was actually playing music that was making that "racket". He said, "I thought at first it was Jimi Hendrix doing the Star Spangled Banner, but then it never gets going!" So I will always love them for that moment.
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