i would be lying if i have listened to that album less than a hundred times, and it's amazing, some of those songs are so deep and so realized. only like the three last songs are not that good but "youth overrider"? "inspire"? "beautiful son"? those are amazing.
i bought jupiter from a second hand cd store in ny and the guy at the counter said "cave in? they used to be good but now they sold out and sucked right?" and i told him that their major label album was so well done, played and written that i loved it and he told me "but they used to be so heavy!!!" like a band needs to stick to doing one thing, haahahaha, it's like all bands would be like the ramones and ac/dc, ugh!
perfect pitch black is underrated, it's a good album.
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