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Old 01.01.2008, 06:03 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It's interesting that so many of you are saying that Sabbath 'define' the genre. Although it's obviously wrong to say that any band can fully 'define' a genre but I always think Sabbath (although Massive in influence) only really represent a certain strand (not much evidence of Hair/Glam Metal, for example) Judas Priest, who for some reason have become deeply unfashionable compared to a band like Sabbath, have covered most bases and are far more of a link to bands like Guns n Roses, as well as providing an explicit link to the likes of Metallica and Megadeth. The British Steel album alone manages to anticipate most of the key Metal sub-genres in about 35 minutes. Not a big deal, just thinking aloud I suppose.

yes and no.

1) sabbath defined the MUSIC, and while yes, you have to point out the aesthetic and overall influence of priest and it is undeniable, i really don't care how metal bands look, i never liked leather anything, to tell you the truth; so it boils down to the music and priest actually, like many many many many others before and after them, just took a little corner of sabbath sound and went off with it (the coda to "black sabbath", their fast songs), perfecting it if you will.

2) sabbath denied the atmosphere of metal, everything from the deeply fast and frenetic feel of thrash and grindcore to the more brooding soundscapes of black metal to the hostile ambience of sludge/doom/what have you call it of everyone from my dying bride to eyehategod. priest, at the end of the day, just dressed in leather and played good songs.

2) i don't consider and will never for the life of me understand, musically, glam/hair as metal. are you going to tell me warrant has something to do with eyehategod? yes, they had long hair and distortion but so do contemporary country singers.

(don't get me wrong, i love hair/glam, it's incredibly funny fun music, but it's definitely not metal. unlike the power metal of manowar, helloween, stratovarious, etc. which is so focused on all the peripheral stuff of the genre that they become so ridiculous is funny as hell to listen and, above all, look at.)
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