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Old 01.07.2008, 12:56 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Good point. It worries me when you get people who play music and the first question that they get asked is: ''So, what did you use to play that?''.
It is a question that I can imagine a musician asking another musician, but I find it more worrying when the record collector or the listener starts pondering too much about those things and ends up negleting the finished product a little too much. I get the impression that some people do that to kind of turn their listening experience into something more difficult and tortuous.

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
Yes, that's also the problem I'm usually challenging myself when doing music. I put tens of useless layers and sounds into my tracks, then listen to it and am all like "this is just not right" and I start deleting. And I usually come to the core which is when I usually get satisfied.

i have two cases i had that happened in shows last year.

first one was fennesz, dude played an obliteratingly blissful set of abadon and structure as he improvised plenty but also incorporated songs from his releases in an seemingly endless stream of music. i run into a guy who runs an electro-acoustic/improv/drone netlabel and who himself makes some music, i asked him how he saw christian's set and he goes "i don't know, he seemed to be trying too hard", fennesz spent the whole time with a guitar strapped with a tabletop full of pedals, mixers and laptops and, instead of sampling and triggering, the guy was doing all in real time, twisting knobs, playing guitar chords, pushing faders, clicking on computer patches. and this guy, this friend, didn't think he was all that because he was trying too hard, even though he's probably the only person who can, as a one man band, redo drone pieces he laid down ten years ago in real time.

a couple of days later, i go see francisco lopez, dude hands over blindfolds for people and his hold set up is covered in a huge black blanket, before he plays he says that his music should be heard and hot seen, that's why he covers his gear up and why we shouldn't see him do his shit, but that the blindfold is optional; francisco plays something like 40 minutes of music that goes from quietly intuitive to devastatingly heavy, an amazing experience. i ran into the same guy i ran into the fennesz show, "how did you like francisco lopez", his response "he was great, i went over to see his gear and he's amazing because his set up is so minimal!"

i thought that was incredibly stupid of his part.
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