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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
fugazifan LIVES in Israel, I bet he 'gets it' pretty well.
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obviously not. He might see it more directly then I do, but that does not automatically means he gets it. most people here in my city do not know a fucking thing about the "ghetto" or the gang culture and violence, and they are especially ignorant of the police brutality, and yet regardless of their ignorance such things exist.
I have not been trying to attack fugazifan personally, I have just been posting news and my interpretations of it. further, I see my positive suggestions for Gaza went unread, maybe I should repost them added emphasis:
interesting how Israel results to third world tactics of military violence and pummels Gaza with crushing military force time and time again, and yet as in third world civil wars, it does nothing to solve the problem. the problem is that people in gaza live in stark third world conditions of absolute poverty and degradation, while the Israelis prosper in the peak of modernism. This third-world-middle-ages tactic of brutish force and besiegement is simply unacceptable, and is only bound to produce more and more violence. This is what happens on them micro-scale in urban violence like here in Los Angeles. When the police react with force and violence to gang violence across the city, then gang violence only increases, thriving in an environment of fear, anxiety, and desperation. On the other hand, when you go straigh to the source of violence to begin with [ie, poverty, eduction, disenfranchisement] and reestablish agency in the community, from the bottom up, from the youth to the seniors, then you see the community develop from within and the violence decreases. In this city, violence varries from block to block. on set of streets will be surprisingly middle-class suburb america just walking distance from third world violence. these are the same streets of the same city.
if the Israeli tactics of force and violence are replaced with more positive and productive measures, then perhaps the israelis will solve their problem of insecurity. it seems obvious to me, that if you blow a bunch of shit up, and lay siege against the people, condemning the innocent and guilty alike, Israel is only bound to create more and more enemies with the youth. if these youth could grow up in a positive environment, of developing conditions rather then worsening, with proper schools and housing, themselves removed from the constant fear of violence and death anxiety (this same anxiety which causes urban violence in american streets, a sullen sense of hopelessness, and a "fuck it" mentality, which scarface raps "and with that fucked up attitude he killed his first man") then they will not perpetuate violence against israel. this is precisely why tit-for-tat politics do not work. solve the problem, do not create several more.