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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
It's Is Always Just Losers Blaming Their Problems On Others Instead Of Looking Within Themselves.
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, the interview with the guy that made the videos. He was one cold-hearted motherfucker.
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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I get the idea that "Russian Nazi-ism" is really a cover for a resurgence of a particularly unpleasant strain of Russian nationalism, in a weird way. Seeing as these fuckwads are wildly racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic etc, I guess it's "natural" for them to go towards National Socialism as a blind groping for something relevant to them. A situation that has totally been used by the Yeltsin/Putin administrations to re-inforce their "Slavic pride" agenda.
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I didn't see any evidence of 'anti-semitism' in the film. Ashkenazi Jews aren't from far away from Russia (but then again, they do mention the caucasus, which probably means former Yugoslav people rather than Jews). Not to be contentious, but it concerns me that 'racism' is bundled into one convenient box - that is, those who are against 'racism' assume that 'racism' means a single thing. Sadly, it's much more complicated than that. But you all know that, I shan't patronise any further.
Anyway. I was going to say that, by creating an absolute 'other' of the racist, that is, to subjugate the 'other' of the racist is potentially dangerous; you see all those people who aren't joining in the beatings but aren't stopping them? They're either complicit or in fear; in fact, both. "I'm ok in my ivory towers - I don't even know any racists, or the ones I do know are pretty benign".
I don't see these people as inhuman; I see them as unfortunate. I'd like to think in times of desparation I'd not turn the way these people have; I can't preclude it absolutely. The question I'm asking - are these people, these racists - are they consequences, or causes? If you think the latter then... well, I dis-agree quite strongly.
Appeals to national identity will always curry a certain amount of favour in times of poverty; the rampant alcoholism, the impossible property market, the largely back-breaking labour, the absolutely piss-difficult winters, the massive disparity between rich and poor make the Russian 'Nazi' problem not the same as when dilletante-ish 'Westerners' become hard-nationalists - that's (in many but by no means all cases) an intellectual decision, a rejection of social norms, a conscious decision... these are just young men, doing what young men do and reaching out for something and finding it. They're not self-hating, they're enjoying the social side. Again, I would hope I wouldn't fall into that sort of thing, but I don't think many people can comment on something that's on one side entirely alien and, on another, entirely plausible (if not understandable).