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Originally Posted by chairman of the bored
i understand what you're saying, and what i'm saying is kind of hard to define. As far as wesley willis goes, repetitive keyboard styled rock and roll music was done by suicide before that. and of course, wesley doesn't necessarily sound like suicide (prob. never even heard suicide) but i just think of it as a continuum, an always evolving, but continuous set of ideas. never heard jandek, but i'll check it out.
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This is where I said it depends what you meant by "point of reference". I can't fathom Wesley Willis being influenced by Suicide, and I don't even think they sound vaguely similar. However, I'm sure he wasn't the first person to sing out of tune over casio presets.