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Originally Posted by batreleaser
Sonic Youth actually owes a lot to No Wave as a movement and thier early music holds very close to the No Wave aesthetic; uncompromising, non-commerical, artistic, dark, atonal, lack of melody, saying to to struture, etc.. No Wave as a very diverse and small scene, none of those bands sound similar other than use of Volume and Noise, but to say thier sound owes nothing to them is absurd. Lee and Thurston learned experimental guitar technique from Glenn Branca, one of the key No Wave players, and if Thurston had not gotten into No Wave, he might've been in bands like the Coachwhips forever. Without Suicide and the Voioids there would have been no DNA or Teenage Jesus, without Teenage Jesus and DNA, most likely no Sonic Youth or Swans. Sorry folks, nothing comes out of thin air, everything in this world is the cause of some ever present effect. No Wave may have seemed like it came out of nowhere, but Noise and Harmolodics and Atonality being incorprated into Rock N Roll was no new idea.
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Sure, I obviously wasn't saying that Sonic Youth weren't influenced by No Wave. That would be a statement completely ignorant of the band I've been following heavily for a quarter century.
What I was getting at is that it's quite possible to be influenced by Sonic Youth without having that be the portion of their sound that comes from No Wave. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs certainly have some SY influences, like many, many groups out there, but they are primarily post Daydream Nation influences. That's not No Wave, it's indie rock!
I realize you and I are in agreement on that point, I just wanted to clarify that I, like 90% of everybody on this board am fully aware of the debt that Sonic Youth's music owes to No Wave. For one thing, Branca's first band Theoretical Girls was part of the No Wave scene, so the lineage is pretty direct.