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Originally Posted by pbradley
I simply can't agree with a racial view of history and I can't tell if you are advocating one, or claiming one of my interpretation, or both.
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The "founding fathers" america was a racial concept, limited to white men. It excluded eastern europeans as not-white initially, excluded the indians as not people, and considered the Africans 3/5 to a white man, at least a bit above the other inferiors. The real america, the tangible america outside of the ideological theories of government, is one of many people. The WASP founding fathers experience thus is an extremely limited view of America, which excludes both historical and contemporary americans. again, bullshit I say! and ol america lovin indifferent to mexico !@#$% should have that beer with you, then you'll find mexicans are americans as well and their formative experience is an american experience as much as george washington.