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Originally Posted by terriblecanyons
Amen to that. I hope to god that Obama fixes this bullshit credit. Taking money from people who don't have any money is not only unethical but also rude, cheap, and should be illegal.
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well no, the credit cards always make money in the end. they make up the defaults with high interest, late charges, etc.
in any case nobody forces you to get a credit card-- but people are made to think that it's easy money-- it's not. ultimately the decision is yours. credit should be something people use to make money (eg purchase equipment), not to buy a new tv. but then credit keeps "the economy" going. thats gonna crash soon too and it will be a bitch.
anyway. everyone should watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiOVNWoWTAU
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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
just like taking money / services on credit and not paying for them.
nobody took yr money. you went to the hospital and they fixed up yr foot, and now they want to be paid for it.
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yep yep. though health care is a human rights issue. even in 3rd world countries you can get fixed up without owing your kidneys. i'd argue that faced with the choice between committing fraud and dying of gangrene one should commit fraud-- if we value life more than money, it's the ethical thing to do. lesser of 2 evils.
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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
True, though we don't really have any choice but to go to the doctor when we are sick and the prices are completely out of control. Monopolies are a kind of theft in terms of anti-trust, but the American health care system is essentially one that includes the insurance companies (I know you work for one, but my wife works for a hospital, we have to take the best paying jobs we can after all).
Obama claims he'll be working on that little problem too, but we have heard that one before...
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the health care system is truly fucked up, and prices are out of hand-- truly dysfunctional shit.
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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
almost every city has a community hospital that serves the uninsured public (these are mostly teaching hospitals).
just like any service you wish to buy, it's yr responsibility to be informed prior to "the purchase". it's really no different than taking yr car to the mechanic (except the mechanic can put a lein on yr shit if you don't pay).
I still insist that local Medicaid assistance is available for Ms. Crayons, but she needs to put forth the effort to secure it. some hospitals have patient advocates that assist with this.
PS: I don't work for an insurance company. I do billing for clinical services.
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yep, yep. there are options if you search-- medicare, public hospitals... jobs... the survival instinct is pretty fucking awesome.
i fear crayons might be dealing with this the emo way. "the world is fucked i am doomed theres nothing i can do" kinda.
go ahead, shoot me for speaking my mind now... i hope im wrong anyway.