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I think the problem is that rock has never really embraced the concept of newness. It seems far more interested in ideas of authenticity, rebellion or power/intensity than anything else. When 'newness' does emerge within rock it increasingly seems to stem from bringing in pre-existing ideas from other styles (such as free jazz, dub, etc) rather than tinkering with rock itself. In that sense I'd say that SY are probably one of the last truly innovative (rather than new) pure Rock groups. I'm sure there are other examples but I can't think of one off the top of my head. Certainly the Valentines seem to me more like an interesting synthesis of SY, Dinosaur Jnr, Cocteau Twins and (at least on Loveless) dance music.
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