View Single Post
Old 12.30.2008, 12:26 AM   #79
SuchFriendsAreDangerous
invito al cielo
 
SuchFriendsAreDangerous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fucking Los Angeles
Posts: 14,801
SuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's assesSuchFriendsAreDangerous kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddylikes
What I said in no way violates the rules you've stated above.

Their use of force is disproportionate with the level of force levied upon them, however it is not disproportionate with the goals and ends that they seek. For the usage, their use of force is directly proportionate.

And, the goal in their retaliatory strikes is not to injure innocents, but to target the people who are striking them.

Based upon your source cited above, Israel is well within the boundaries established.

the very goals they seek are wrong,
1. Just cause. This is clearly the most important rule; it sets the tone for everything which follows. A state may launch a war only for the right reason. The just causes most frequently mentioned include: self-defence from external attack; the defence of others from such; the protection of innocents from brutal, aggressive regimes; and punishment for a grievous wrongdoing which remains uncorrected. Vitoria suggested that all the just causes be subsumed under the one category of “a wrong received.” Walzer, and most modern just war theorists, speak of the one just cause for resorting to war being the resistance of aggression. Aggression is the use of armed force in violation of someone else's basic rights.
2. Right intention. A state must intend to fight the war only for the sake of its just cause. Having the right reason for launching a war is not enough: the actual motivation behind the resort to war must also be morally appropriate. Ulterior motives, such as a power or land grab, or irrational motives, such as revenge or ethnic hatred, are ruled out. The only right intention allowed is to see the just cause for resorting to war secured and consolidated. If another intention crowds in, moral corruption sets in. International law does not include this rule, probably because of the evidentiary difficulties involved in determining a state's intent. "

You defined their intention as:

Quote:
"if you fuck with us at all, we will FUCK YOU UP." The reason they are trying to send this message, is that they are hoping that Palestinians will realize the futility of striking Israel. In realizing this basic truth, that if you attack Israel, you are in turn making life hell for everyone you want to elevate, then the Palestinians will begin to police themselves, and exert pressure on each other to refrain from terrorizing Israel.

That is definition of terror, which is not a just cause nor a good intention.
__________________
Today Rap music is the Lakers
 
SuchFriendsAreDangerous is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|