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Old 04.22.2009, 04:16 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Glice
Beyonce's miming was captured, and vaunted as her 'real' singing. You still have to get close to the note for an autotuner to sound right, otherwise you sound like this. The notion of the 'real' singer is all well and good, but PAs are much louder than they were in, say, Edith Piaf's days.

I'm not necessarily defending Beyoncé's talent, I'm saying that taking one recorded instance of her singing without the context and claiming she relies on an autotuner just means you don't know what an autotuner does. By which I mean - it searches for the nearest consonant note in a preset scale - if you're more than a note out (as this audio is) the sound that comes out would be wrong.

I'd suggest that the fact that Beyoncé's singing lower, as she is in the Stern clip, is more of an attempt to hear herself over whatever other sound is happening (because you can feel lower notes in your body better than you can high notes).

Glicey, I never mentioned autotuning. I was saying that she was just singing along with her backing track. As for PA's being louder, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything as monitors speakers are also louder. Also the PA's in use most of the time these days particularly for big shows etc are of the line array variety. These are quieter behind the boxes than your traditional old school box stacks and flown boxes. In fact you can have a conversation standing behind a line array at 100 dBA without having to raise your voice too much. And if you ever get the chance to stand in front of a nexo PS15 monitor wedge get the engineer to crank it up for but make sure you have some reinforcement between your neck and shoulders 'cos these mofo's will tear your head off.

I do know what you are saying though as Autotuners are next to useless live. I know Radiohead have used them live in the past but as an effect. I can't remember what track it is but Thom Yorke sings and they use the auto tuner to drag his voice out of tune.
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