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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I blame drugs.
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and where do all the drugs come from?
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to wellcharge again.
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Originally Posted by afterthefact
I don't live there, so I'm not pretending to know more about this than you. You have a day-to-day view of this mess, so you see a lot more of the gritty reality than I do. But I think it's unfair to put all of the blame on the government. What about the people themselves? Are they not responsible for their own actions? You can say that all these people know is violence, but that's not entirely true. If they have TV's or watch any movies, they have the ability to see, if nothing else, the possiblity of a lack of violence.
Sure, that's all easier said than done of course, but it's still there. They still have the choice not to act that way. Why would it be my responsiblity as a single human being to put an end to it, when it is another single human being that's causing it and not stopping it? I'm just rambling, so I hope this is making sense 
And there are other factors too, factors which (and I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just saying) you seem to support. Drugs & ganster rap that often promote violence play a part as well. While I like a lot of rap myself, I can't say that a kid growing up listening to Wu-Tang wouldn't be influenced for the worse. While I listen to itand just like the way they flow, some kid in a bad neighborhood is thinking "Yeah, that's how I got to be to survive."
Sure, local governments need to do more to provide positive influences, but the people creating the negative influences need to think about what they are doing as well, and take some responsibility. |
Everything you mentioned is correct, the problem with gang, street and drug violence in the city of Los Angeles (and 100% of US cities above 250,000 according to US census which report such activities) is that is a complex network of problems, there is no smoking bullet..
but there are disproportionate contributing factors, and the corruption of government is a kingpin issue here. The fucked schools combined with the corrupt and brutal police combined with FBI saboteurs (who flood the streets with all the guns and drugs to begin with!!!) result in a disaster. And further, the blame can rightfully be blamed on the govt because the govt FORCES the kids to go to these fucked up schools, the POLICE do not give you any options they call all the shots, and the FBI sneak all the guns in as the ultimate devil's advocate..
of course the people are responsible for their own actions, but they are not entirely to blame. Further, I am hoping that communities TO WORK ON SELF-RELIANCE and DO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR THEMSELVES..
but first and foremost, WE MUST SOLVE THE OUTSIDE FACTORS, before we can get at the inside. We must end all the corruption, establish schools that work, get rid of the police-state environment of police brutality and neighborhood injunctions, and get the damned rouge Intellegence agents OUT OF LA and all their fucking bullshit guns and drugs!!
then with all that outside bullshit out of the way, the people can again begin to work on themselves. After all, this is what history teaches us. In the 1960s the black and "minority" communities of the US began to work on self-reliance, become deeply self-aware and form true communties, however the system infilitrated like they took down Marcus Garvey and the UNIA before them, and by 1970 all that was left was body bags, prison inmantes, and a bunch of fucking gangsters selling drugs for the FBI/CIA...
fucked up!
good thread. I like all the input, very thought provoking.