getting cosmological I do not think that I addressed the issue, pain beyond life?
well lets examine this carefully and with an open-mind. Atsonicpark, have you ever had an out of body experience? Or been absolutely unconscious but in full attention? I have had both experiences, out of body and unconscious, and in BOTH circumstances, the emotions and interpretations of life (ie, pain or joy, sadness or anxiety) were ever present. In alternate states of existence and consciousness I still experienced elements of what I would call pain or sorrow, joy or laughter. But these were not strictly PHYSICAL sensations as they occur when I laugh at a joke, or when I cut my finger. The pain I experienced in these altered states was STRICTLY SPIRITUAL, strictly emotional. There was no physical sensations to speak of, however there was a most distinct and impacting feeling of pain and remorse...
that being said, I would myself believe that suicide is perhaps the MOST PAINFUL of human experiences, because it is an induced death experience at the peak of personal pain, and I believe that this pain transcends the body's mere life and continues into the spiritual existence, for however long such an experience might last (could be the 15-20 seconds mentioned above, could be an eternity who the fuck really knows?)
and rob, in regards to the one shot deal..
explain the concept of incarnation? Of being alive? Of animating the inanimate bodies we live in? I believe that we are all condensed energy, but it is this energy that gives us life, that animates our bodies. That we exist beyond our temporary, fleshly existence is an obvious result of the law of the
conservation of energy..
If our bodies are merely condensed energy (e=mc2), that energy
must contain our consciousness, our "soul" for a lack of modern or secular terms, and just like all the energy in the universe, our "soul"
can not be created or destroyed, it has simply always existed and always will exist, and this I believe makes suicide a kind of extension of the pain of physical life into the spiritual realm. after all, the kind of grief, anxiety and pain which leads a person towards suicide is
not physical at all, but spiritual, emotional, psychological etc etc...
and atsonicpark, if you are not exaggerating your own pain here, cheer up fe real! We really like you around here and would hate to see you feel so down... remember to lively up yourself, that the rastaman vibration is POSITIVE and that you've got to have a good vibe!