Part 3/5
CONTAINER DRIVERS
MES "The trouble with the music biz is that its become so bourgeoise. A middle class executive business like the police force."
SM "A middle class executive police force ? You must be mad ! They're stormtroopers nowadays, thicker than they ever were."
MES "Can we drop twe cop talk ? It's the same with everything else, like lurries..." Sm "Lurries ? What are lurries ?"
MES "Lurries. Containers that deliver your fucking food to your fucking house, alright ?"
SM "Lorries ! Yeah right."
MES "The drivers are paid the lowest wages because everyone wants to sit in the office and be a ponce. You can't just go into a hotel and write your name, you've got to fuck around on a bloody computer. Nobody wants to work anymore."
SM "Oh God ! You make me wanna puke sometimes, you do. Of course nobody wants to work. Who in their right mind wants to work ?"
MES "Alright, alright, that's obvious, the sky's fucking blue. Soccer's the same. None of the fuckers want to hit the ball in the back of the net. They're all too fucking muscley. And thick. Running up and down the field like bloody morons. The England team are all bloody minor executives who can't kick the ball in the back of the net, can't do the bloody job they're hired to do. I do loads of gigs, that's my job to play loads of gigs, I'm not an executive, I don't mind playing in front of a load of sweaty people." NME "Do you two still enjoy playing live ?"
NC "I don't know if I do. The first Kilburn show was a nightmare."
MES "What's new with The Bad Seeds ?"
NC "I used to hate playing live totally, just the whole physical exhaustion wass too much for me."
MES "Bleeding workshy Australian. Australians never do any work."
NC "The last tour, going on stage was a release."
MES "Sexually ?"
NC "As my life gets more constipated and cramped going on stage I'm able to purge myself in some way."
MES "A bowel release."
NC "I feel more relaxed."
MES "With Mick Harvey behnd you with the vaseline."
NC "Put a muzzle on this guy."
SM "The gigs I enjoy are the ones where I am so angry and paranoid, and I hate the audience so much, that I put everything into it to feed off the aggressive side of it. I don't actually hate the fans but when I'm feeling angry, pissed off and full of hate, it's a good gig for me."
NC "An audience is the perfect thing to unleash that hate and venom on. It doesn't necessarily mean that you hate everyone in the audience but when you've got a so-called adoring mass in front of you, it's a perfect target for that kind of disgust. Sometimes you find yourself in a position where you're venting your disgust on an audience and a lot of them keep coming back because they actually like that aspect. In a way that diffuses the feeling and you don't get the same release."
MES "You gotta reassess your audience, make sure they aren't just coming to throw ashtrays at your head for fun. Shane says he goes on full of twist, you've got to. If you don't you're fucking fucked, that's whats wrong with a lot of acts these days, they do fucking yoga before and go on all fucking relaxed. I've been with Fad Gadget and he was doing incense and headstands. The English soccer players could do with a lot of twist, they should be put in a room and made to go round in circles, and told "if you don't do a good gig tonight then you're not getting paid."
NME "Shane, you obviously don't enjoy playing live anymore, is that through being on the road too much ?"
SM "I feel like I've spent the last five years of my life on the road. It hasn't affected my songs but it has probably affected everything else about me. Obviously, the more you travel, the wilder the things that keep happening to you, the more likely it is that complete strangers will knock on your hotel room door."
MES "Nick and I don't related to that 'cos the people who come up to us either hate our guts or wouldn't really want to be alone in a room with us. You're a very amiable guy, Shane."
NC "I'm not sure what you're talking about here but the way people related to me in the dressing rooms and so on was incredibly aggressive. They know every record and they seem to think they should nudge me or bump into me as they go past.It was this incredible performance that used to amuse me. I think we share something in common on that level 'cos, like, in the early days, people were drawn towards us like they'd be drawn towards a car smash..."
SM "I read about the fan mail that Freddie Krueger from the Nightmare on Elm Street movies gets-real sicko stuff, loads of letters from genuine corpse freaks and child killer types. It frightens him shitless. That sorta thing freaks me out."
NC "There is a definite relationship between that fanaticism and the fact that, as a performer, you expose more of yourself, of the undercurrents of your personality. Most rock personalities subdue that or chose not to explore it."
[caption] "It's rare when a group comes along that has any real soul to them." (Cave)
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