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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i think jazz and blues is the real heart of american music + rock n roll period. i think REAL jazz is the purist form of music, probally ever.
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I'm obviously not in any position to say what constitutes the 'heart' of american music but I suspect you're right in suggesting jazz and blues. However, while it's clear that the blues was a massive influence on early RnR. I think jazz is a little more secondary. Rather than having a direct impact on RnR (compared with that of say country or gospel) it was more filtered through its influence on those genres that informed it (in particular blues).
I can't agree with your second point at all though. Besides the fact that I'm not altogether sure what you mean by 'real' jazz, I think that to refer to any kind of jazz as pure would be to ignore the numerous influence that other musical traditions had on it. i think it's hard to consider any music as pure but certainly jazz is one I'd consider as being among the least. Indeed, returning to your original point, jazz may well be the quintessential american music largely
because of its very lack of purity.