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Old 07.29.2009, 08:21 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
if it's just contrarianism it's no more than irritating, but when the objection is valid but used to back up something even worse, then it's something altogether more objectionable (and dangerous).

exactly. there are two scenarios here.. people will become even more apathetic as the expose as just more politricks rather than a revelation of the truth "and then the system wins again and will carry on winning until God knows when..."

or

Even worse, the people act on the information but in the direction ordered by the whistle blower, who in this instance, is promoting a right-republican-divisive platform of "see these guys are so bad vote for us again" when in reality the situation is "see, ALL these guys, right or left, or all equally fucked up so lets try something new altogether.."
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Originally Posted by pbradley
I consider these objections to be of the structure of American representative democracy and its relation to corporatism. As suchfriends says, the right wing is just as objectionable. Therefore, to address these objections to a single party only serves to perpetuate the system in which you are criticizing. Ironically, funneling anti-corporate sentiment toward anti-government ideology benefits corporate interests via deregulation. Contrarian politics is an essential element of mainstream politics.

There is no end for politics.


The issue is not so much the substance of the objection itself (ie, calling out the Obama administration corruption) but the motivation and intention of the muckracker in calling it out in the first place. Why was this information spun to us in the first place? What is the agenda of the source? In this regard, the agenda is to play power politics games and try to convince people to support one corrupt asshole over another.. The shame is that in the process, since the whiste-blower has an invested interest and agenda, the substance of the exposition gets discredited as people say, "no, Obama is not corrupt, thats just rightist propaganda"

ps. Obama is a straight bitch for backing down with this Gates Jr incident. We all know that there was racism involved when one of the most famous black intellectuals in america gets wrongfully arrested for breaking into his own house at the front door in a well-to-do neighborhood. Getting arrested for being black is nothing new in america, but it is sad continuation of the status quo when a BLACK PRESIDENT throws the victim to the wolves.. thats why Marcus Garvey said there would never be a black president, implying that if there ever was, it would not be a black man representing the interests of black people, but rather a sell-out bumbaclott..
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