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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
i think harcore (hxe! hxe!) and grindcore are harsher than noise because of the aesthetic i associate with them.
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depends on what are you talking about.
granted, in theory those are very abrassive kinds of music. but you have bands from all those genres who aren't noisy or intense. for example, there are bands like 16 bitch pile up or graveyards who are noise but their stuff isn't scorching, there's hardcore bands that are very much melodic and toned down (which can be a good thing, like with adolescents or descendents, or plain awful like the crap that gets past today as hardcore). grindcore bands that mix death metal with their sound are usually sissies.
it's all subjective.