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Old 09.21.2009, 10:02 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by pbradley
Well of course it is pretentious, everything is except your autonomic functions like your heartbeat and anything else that is supra-subconscious.

Nonsense. Subconsciousness is a functional superimposition of consciousness, or superego if you must be Freudian. As such, it can only be understood from the perspective of a functioning (Cartesian) consciousness. Any talk of an 'autonomic' subconscious is blighted by the inelecutable (and often obscure, ineffable) machinations of the consciousness. Without consciousness, there is no notion of the 'autonomy' of somatic functions. Just because the notions of consciousness, 'supra-consciousness', 'subconsciousness' or the 'unconscious' are complex and contestable doesn't mean that any discussion of human nature and culture is inherently 'pretentious'. That's just lazy Darwinism, or bad Heideggarianism. Just because music is a troubled topic to talk about, with little in the way of ontological criteria doesn't mean that the 'objective' criteria are unassailable, or worse, white elephants.

tl;dr: what else do people do on the internet if not talk shit?
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