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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
I don't fully understand why this board tends to shy away of anything at all political.
About the "middle class" thing - i mean, wasn't that a problem with a lot of punk in general?
Just because political shit doesn't obtain everything that it strives for doesn't mean it's worthless. That's a really apathetic viewpoint.
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I'm not sure how much of this is directed at me, but I think it's really important to not assume that my dislike of Fugazi is the same as not liking political music.
I really don't believe that a lot of punk was middle-class. Someone like Crass didn't belong to the middle-class, although some of their members came from that background. I have no idea of the background of someone like Le Tigre, and less does it matter. Le Tigre are effective in their message whilst also appealing to both girls and people who want to dance.
In that regard, bands like Atari Teenage Riot, Asian dub Foundation, Adrian Sherwood, Public Enemy or even ostensibly apolitical things like Underground resistance make much more sense to me personally. Shouting at white kids who've come to be shouted at doesn't really change anything so much as it edifies an existing antipathy; shouting at people who are out for a good time on the dancefloor is arguably more 'subversive' (to use this thread's watch-word). Sizzla is more interesting than Fugazi simply because his message is not an easily-digested 'the political situation is bad'. It's much more complex and personal than that.
I suppose I'm not saying that Fugazi are bad, but I don't think they speak to Europeans so much as they speak to Europeans who look up to Americans. That's arguably elitist but I'd rather have a million Tystions or Datblygus or even fucking Y Crwyffs than I would one Fugazi.